So where is the Hawking radiation? Individual particles do hit the earth with 110 million times the energy of the ones made at CERN so there should be millions of much bigger ’safe’ micro black holes all taking time to give off Hawking radiation … so where is it? Science is all about the empirical evidence … so where the heck is it.

Even worse is that on a second per second basis there will be 2 million to 250 million times more energy directed at a point than anything in nature depending on the process used and enhancements planned. The concept of a traffic jam or dogpiling as Hassanadin speculated requires a growing deformation of spacial dimension on a micro scale.

Even nature doesn’t treat all black hole formation in the same way because when a large star goes supernova it will explode most of its mass away in a nebula formation while a tenth will form a black hole. In a few cases there is a supernova impostor event where the star explodes then reforms like Eta Carinae did in 1843.

One can speculate on all sorts of events but the end result is that black holes are the most violent of all the known objects in the universe. I do not doubt the integrity of world scientists nor do I doubt that they are very clever. I just feel their confidence prevents them from using something so very ordinary that I would call common sense.

Pile-Up:
Lets say that by 14TeV, a level of energy is reached such that two colliding protons could establish a mbh out of 10TeV of the available energy due to the momentum (although a slight deceleration is offered near impact from electrostatic repulsion).
When the next two turn up they don’t smash into each other because there’s something weird in the way that is so slow moving that it hasn’t moved far enough away yet. But there’s no way out (can seem a bit like that with CERN). So we get an accretion disk or accretion shell.
Anyway, another 25ns later, a bigger accretion disk/(shell). Shouldn’t take long before things get out of hand even if the machine is switched off in a couple of minutes.
Feel as ill as I did when I thought of this? (Remember, I got this idea from reading about rest ‘final state’ scenarios in particle collisions from the book ‘Special Relativity’, A.P. French.)
- Perhaps so.
Alternatively..
Flare-Up:
and this one I got from reading about Hawking Radiation (in a book by W.J.Kaufmann)
If you look at the expected Hawking TEMPERATURE for micro black holes*, you would get around 10^45 degrees Kelvin for 10 ^26 seconds. For me, its the temperature that strikes more..
Power is the one that’s about energy rates I thought, while temperature are directly related to kinetic energy -
isn’t that right?
Anyway, I suppose in string theory things aren’t supposed to be quite the same - not according to Kanti (physicist) anyway. But Kanti also believes that a mbh would have upto 4 times the radius.
Well, I don’t see how to necessarily exclude a conventional version of mbh temperature (see below) once its been established via string theory or whatever.
Oh yes, the last one..
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End-Up:
I looked at Hawking/Stewart ‘92 on ‘Singularity Thunderbolts’. They were considering the possibility that the black hole SINGULARITY information would NOT radiate whilst only the matter created outside of it radiated - from within/outside of - the event horizon.
In this scenario, rejected in part because we’re still around; after the radiation completes, an unstable version of the singularity would then ‘tear through space’. The rejection argument depends upon there being primordial or other black holes small enough to have radiated away already. Even if there were other small enough black holes, the result of a Hawking radiation process may depend on circumstances - even a cern safety report suggested that occurrence of Hawking radiation itself could be circumstantial - and perhaps lhc creates the right context for small enough black holes to become unstable singularities for the first time?
Prepared to risk the above?
Eric
fr Wikipedia (with zero angular momentum):
Temp = (reduced Planck’s constant hbar* cube of speed of light)/
(8 * pi *G * mass of black hole * Boltzmann’s constant).

I very much appreciate your post. I lived in Geneva until the 1th August and have now moved away from this city about 70 kilometers. But I still watch the sky…

>>I can only hope that both French and Swiss authorities
Authorities - in my view - have no wisdom.

So my interpretation of this situation - in disregard of a all the critics - is that the LHC - which is LIVE now - will start collisions soon.

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