Comments on: Culture of Superiority? http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/ Large Hadron Collider Safety Facts Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:18:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Michael Noonan http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/#comment-770 Michael Noonan Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:14:27 +0000 http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=34#comment-770 A short note to explain the previous message:- There is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with the scientific communities understanding of matter. Now that I have said that I repeat YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE !!! A short note to explain the previous message:-

There is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with the scientific communities understanding of matter.

Now that I have said that I repeat YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE !!!

]]> By: Michael Noonan http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/#comment-769 Michael Noonan Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:06:51 +0000 http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=34#comment-769 One problem that has not been addressed with any particle accelerator is the breaking of the laws of physics with matter. I have placed this question on a couple of forums and no reply. Science can not account for the matter it accelerates. Quantum science 'assumes' no time for particles because it makes a mess of the mathematics. But particle accelerators use real matter to 'create' particles. So even though a proton is very small it is still matter and not a particle. First scientists 'assume' the protons used gain mass due to the velocity (near light speed) of over 200 times the mass of a proton. So they are happy to use general relativity to explain the gain of mass. But if you took a simple piece of paper it would be a huge distance for a proton to travel through. Using the same Laws of same points of time the proton that enters that page width is not the same proton that leaves the page width. In order for it to be the same proton time must be allowed into the mix of equations to describe the movement of the proton around the particle accelerator. Just because something appears to work does not mean we know why it is working. Symmetry breaking could actually be reality bending. Within a year this particle accelerator will be five to seven times more powerful than anything ever built on earth. There is no explanation for why any particle accelerator works apart from the fact that they do. Even more strange is in line with the increased rate of universe expansion there is an increased rate of performance being delivered from the older particle accelerators. In short the science community is dabbling in the unknown and that unknown might be the very fabric of time and space. One problem that has not been addressed with any particle accelerator is the breaking of the laws of physics with matter. I have placed this question on a couple of forums and no reply. Science can not account for the matter it accelerates.

Quantum science ‘assumes’ no time for particles because it makes a mess of the mathematics. But particle accelerators use real matter to ‘create’ particles. So even though a proton is very small it is still matter and not a particle. First scientists ‘assume’ the protons used gain mass due to the velocity (near light speed) of over 200 times the mass of a proton. So they are happy to use general relativity to explain the gain of mass.

But if you took a simple piece of paper it would be a huge distance for a proton to travel through. Using the same Laws of same points of time the proton that enters that page width is not the same proton that leaves the page width. In order for it to be the same proton time must be allowed into the mix of equations to describe the movement of the proton around the particle accelerator.

Just because something appears to work does not mean we know why it is working. Symmetry breaking could actually be reality bending.

Within a year this particle accelerator will be five to seven times more powerful than anything ever built on earth. There is no explanation for why any particle accelerator works apart from the fact that they do.

Even more strange is in line with the increased rate of universe expansion there is an increased rate of performance being delivered from the older particle accelerators. In short the science community is dabbling in the unknown and that unknown might be the very fabric of time and space.

]]> By: SaneScience http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/#comment-760 SaneScience Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:39:34 +0000 http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=34#comment-760 Man's technology has exceeded his grasp. - 'The World is not Enough' Zealous Nobel Prize hungry Physicists are racing each other and stopping at nothing to try to find the supposed 'Higgs Boson'(aka God) Particle, among others, and are risking nothing less than the annihilation of the Earth and all Life in endless experiments hoping to prove a theory when urgent tangible problems face the planet. The European Organization for Nuclear Research(CERN) new Large Hadron Collider(LHC) is the world's most powerful atom smasher that will soon be firing subatomic particles at each other at nearly the speed of light to create Miniature Big Bangs producing Micro Black Holes, Strangelets and other potentially cataclysmic phenomena. Particle physicists have run out of ideas and are at a dead end forcing them to take reckless chances with more and more powerful and costly machines to create new and never-seen-before, unstable and unknown matter while Astrophysicists, on the other hand, are advancing science and knowledge on a daily basis making new discoveries in these same areas by observing the universe, not experimenting with it and with your life. The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De Rújula in the BBC LHC documentary, 'The Six Billion Dollar Experiment', incredibly admits quote, "Will we find the Higgs particle at the LHC? That, of course, is the question. And the answer is, science is what we do when we don't know what we're doing." And CERN spokesmodel Brian Cox follows with this stunning quote, "the LHC is certainly, by far, the biggest jump into the unknown." The CERN-LHC website Mainpage itself states: "There are many theories as to what will result from these collisions,..." Again, this is because they truly don't know what's going to happen. They are experimenting with forces they don't understand to obtain results they can't comprehend. If you think like most people do that 'They must know what they're doing' you could not be more wrong. Some people think similarly about medical Dr.s but consider this by way of comparison and example from JAMA: "A recent Institute of Medicine report quoted rates estimating that medical errors kill between 44,000 and 98,000 people a year in US hospitals." The second part of the CERN quote reads "...but what's for sure is that a brave new world of physics will emerge from the new accelerator,..." A molecularly changed or Black Hole consumed Lifeless World? The end of the quote reads "...as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the workings of the Universe." These experiments to date have so far produced infinitely more questions than answers but there isn't a particle physicist alive who wouldn't gladly trade his life to glimpse the "God particle", and sacrifice the rest of us with him. Reason and common sense will tell you that the risks far outweigh any potential(as CERN physicists themselves say) benefits. This quote from National Geographic exactly sums this "science" up: "That's the essence of experimental particle physics: You smash stuff together and see what other stuff comes out." Find out more about that "stuff" below; http://www.SaneScience.org/ http://www.LHCFacts.org http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm http://www.lhcdefense.org/ http://www.lhcconcerns.com Popular Mechanics - "World's Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock 'God Particle'" - http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html" Man’s technology has exceeded his grasp. - ‘The World is not Enough’
Zealous Nobel Prize hungry Physicists are racing each other and stopping at nothing to try to find the supposed ‘Higgs Boson’(aka God) Particle, among others, and are risking nothing less than the annihilation of the Earth and all Life in endless experiments hoping to prove a theory when urgent tangible problems face the planet. The European Organization for Nuclear Research(CERN) new Large Hadron Collider(LHC) is the world’s most powerful atom smasher that will soon be firing subatomic particles at each other at nearly the speed of light to create Miniature Big Bangs producing Micro Black Holes, Strangelets and other potentially cataclysmic phenomena.
Particle physicists have run out of ideas and are at a dead end forcing them to take reckless chances with more and more powerful and costly machines to create new and never-seen-before, unstable and unknown matter while Astrophysicists, on the other hand, are advancing science and knowledge on a daily basis making new discoveries in these same areas by observing the universe, not experimenting with it and with your life.
The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De Rújula in the BBC LHC documentary, ‘The Six Billion Dollar Experiment’, incredibly admits quote, “Will we find the Higgs particle at the LHC? That, of course, is the question. And the answer is, science is what we do when we don’t know what we’re doing.” And CERN spokesmodel Brian Cox follows with this stunning quote, “the LHC is certainly, by far, the biggest jump into the unknown.”
The CERN-LHC website Mainpage itself states: “There are many theories as to what will result from these collisions,…” Again, this is because they truly don’t know what’s going to happen. They are experimenting with forces they don’t understand to obtain results they can’t comprehend. If you think like most people do that ‘They must know what they’re doing’ you could not be more wrong. Some people think similarly about medical Dr.s but consider this by way of comparison and example from JAMA: “A recent Institute of Medicine report quoted rates estimating that medical errors kill between 44,000 and 98,000 people a year in US hospitals.” The second part of the CERN quote reads “…but what’s for sure is that a brave new world of physics will emerge from the new accelerator,…” A molecularly changed or Black Hole consumed Lifeless World? The end of the quote reads “…as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the workings of the Universe.” These experiments to date have so far produced infinitely more questions than answers but there isn’t a particle physicist alive who wouldn’t gladly trade his life to glimpse the “God particle”, and sacrifice the rest of us with him. Reason and common sense will tell you that the risks far outweigh any potential(as CERN physicists themselves say) benefits.
This quote from National Geographic exactly sums this “science” up: “That’s the essence of experimental particle physics: You smash stuff together and see what other stuff comes out.”
Find out more about that “stuff” below;
http://www.SaneScience.org/
http://www.LHCFacts.org
http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm
http://www.lhcdefense.org/
http://www.lhcconcerns.com
Popular Mechanics - “World’s Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock ‘God Particle’” - http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html“

]]> By: JTankers http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/#comment-35 JTankers Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:14:52 +0000 http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=34#comment-35 Additional discussion related to the article may be found at <a href="http://www.lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcerns/Forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=224&p=2357#p2357" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">LHCConcerns.com | Offensive Posts | JTANKERS?</a> Additional discussion related to the article may be found at LHCConcerns.com | Offensive Posts | JTANKERS?

]]> By: JTankers http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/#comment-32 JTankers Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:42:31 +0000 http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=34#comment-32 Comment thread at <a href="http://martinmeenagh.blogspot.com/2008/06/heartbreaking-book-about-time-travel.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">A heartbreaking book about time travel</a> <span style="font-size: smaller;"><em>by Martin Meenagh</em></span> "<i>By what means can an Hawaii Court, even if it is a federal one, assert any authority over a facility outside the USA?</i>" I am not a lawyer, but the case has world wide implications, some court must take jurisdiction. "<i>going to do anything but make Europeans and Canadians determined to go ahead anyway</i>" A few very credible scientists believe that CERN is basing their theory of safety on at least one flawed assumption. If the following reasonable and plausible assumptions prove to be correct, then the uncomfortable truth is that the probability of destruction of Earth is actually closer to 100%, though only mother nature currently knows for certain due to our limited understanding of the physics involved. <B>A.</B> LHC Creates black holes as CERN Predicted (1 per second) <a HREF="http://doc.cern.ch/yellowrep/2003/2003-001/p1.pdf" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">[1]</A>. <B>B.</B> Micro Black holes do not evaporate as LSAG accepts is plausible. <a HREF="http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">[2]</A> <B>C.</B> One or more micro black holes are captured by Earth's gravity as LSAG accepts as plausible. <a HREF="http://lhc2008.web.cern.ch/LHC2008/documents/LSAG.pdf" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">[3]</A> <B>D.</B> Micro Black holes grow exponentially as <a HREF="http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/User:Rossler" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Dr. Otto E. Rossler</A>'s paper predicts and calculates. <a HREF="http://www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/OTTOROESSLERMINIBLACKHOLE.pdf" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">[4] </A> If the reasonable and plausible assumptions above prove correct, and Europeans and Canadians are determined to go ahead anyway, then that would be an unfortunate situation. The entire world is in this together after all! "<i>There is a world issue here. In libel, in risk assessment, and in extradition cases</i>" Yes, there are also potentially issues with respect to freedom of speech, corporate deception, and mis-representation of facts designed to confuse or mislead the public as to risks involved. The lawsuit also alleges on page 15 of <a href="http://www.lhcfacts.org/?cat=9" rel="nofollow">AFFIDAVIT OF LUIS SANCHO</a> IN SUPPORT OF TRO AND PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION: "<i>CERN has neither asked mankind to validate these experiments, nor has it been open and clear about those risks to the public. On the contrary it has <b>systematically hidden evidence</b>, and hence it is, in my opinion and hopefully that of this Court, liable of <b>criminal negligence and occultation of proofs</b>, as it carries about what amounts to a <b>potential global genocide</b>.</i>" "<i>Would you have any links that you could send any readers and myself to as a short cut?</i>" I would suggest <a href="http://www.LHCDefense.org" rel="nofollow">LHCDefense.org</a> for the legal focus. Sincerely, James Tankersley Jr. Administrator, <a href="http://www.LHCFacts.org" rel="nofollow">LHCFacts.org</a> Comment thread at A heartbreaking book about time travel by Martin Meenagh

“By what means can an Hawaii Court, even if it is a federal one, assert any authority over a facility outside the USA?”
I am not a lawyer, but the case has world wide implications, some court must take jurisdiction.

“going to do anything but make Europeans and Canadians determined to go ahead anyway”
A few very credible scientists believe that CERN is basing their theory of safety on at least one flawed assumption. If the following reasonable and plausible assumptions prove to be correct, then the uncomfortable truth is that the probability of destruction of Earth is actually closer to 100%, though only mother nature currently knows for certain due to our limited understanding of the physics involved.

A. LHC Creates black holes as CERN Predicted (1 per second) [1].

B. Micro Black holes do not evaporate as LSAG accepts is plausible. [2]

C. One or more micro black holes are captured by Earth’s gravity as LSAG accepts as plausible. [3]

D. Micro Black holes grow exponentially as Dr. Otto E. Rossler’s paper predicts and calculates. [4]

If the reasonable and plausible assumptions above prove correct, and Europeans and Canadians are determined to go ahead anyway, then that would be an unfortunate situation. The entire world is in this together after all!

“There is a world issue here. In libel, in risk assessment, and in extradition cases”
Yes, there are also potentially issues with respect to freedom of speech, corporate deception, and mis-representation of facts designed to confuse or mislead the public as to risks involved. The lawsuit also alleges on page 15 of AFFIDAVIT OF LUIS SANCHO IN SUPPORT OF TRO AND PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION:

“CERN has neither asked mankind to validate these experiments, nor has it been open and clear about those risks to the public. On the contrary it has systematically hidden evidence, and hence it is, in my opinion and hopefully that of this Court, liable of criminal negligence and occultation of proofs, as it carries about what amounts to a potential global genocide.”

“Would you have any links that you could send any readers and myself to as a short cut?”
I would suggest LHCDefense.org for the legal focus.

Sincerely,
James Tankersley Jr.
Administrator, LHCFacts.org

]]> By: Zephir http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/#comment-31 Zephir Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:49:10 +0000 http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=34#comment-31 Before some time most of scientists have believed, the cold fusion is impossible at room temperature, not this belief isn't working enough apparently. Why wait for the same situation at the case of black hole research on LHC? We know already, the quark jet suppression, as achieved at RHIC/SPS experiments with QG plasma exceeds the Standard Model predictions by one order of magnitude - this is an apparent indicia of BH collapse. Will the successful LHC experiment help us to compute the mass of electron more exactly, then the Heim theory enables (without need of some Higgs boson at all), for example? Before some time most of scientists have believed, the cold fusion is impossible at room temperature, not this belief isn’t working enough apparently.

Why wait for the same situation at the case of black hole research on LHC? We know already, the quark jet suppression, as achieved at RHIC/SPS experiments with QG plasma exceeds the Standard Model predictions by one order of magnitude - this is an apparent indicia of BH collapse.

Will the successful LHC experiment help us to compute the mass of electron more exactly, then the Heim theory enables (without need of some Higgs boson at all), for example?

]]> By: JTankers http://www.lhcfacts.org/2008/06/01/culture-of-superiority/#comment-30 JTankers Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:13:03 +0000 http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=34#comment-30 I removed my alien jesus reference, because it was felt to be unfair piling on and not directly associated. The blog that the removed content comes from is <a href="http://www.alienjesus.com/2008/05/28/william-henry-cern-and-the-goddamn-particle/#comment-4613" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">William Henry-CERN and the God(damn) Particle</a>, and the <a href="http://www.alienjesus.com/who-is-alien-jesus/" target="_blank" alt="alien jesus" rel="nofollow">image from here</a>. I removed my alien jesus reference, because it was felt to be unfair piling on and not directly associated. The blog that the removed content comes from is William Henry-CERN and the God(damn) Particle, and the image from here.

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