Ptrslv72 from what I understand probability is a numeric device. It can be event based like the flip of a coin or time and event based like multiple coin flips to get a probability number for the number of events required or the time taken to reach a probable event like flipping six heads in a row.

So with 31.5 million or so seconds in a year the meltdown of the machine has spared civilization a potential 31.5 million micro black hole possibilities. The probability of any one of them being the cause of planet destruction is small but collectively shouldn’t take more than a few years to hit the mark at the safety margin of 50 million to one.

So unless like the new Star Trek depiction a single quantum singularity is required to destroy a world there is some time yet.

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090508/full/news.2009.459.html

JTankers, what’s going on with all of your heroes?

I suspect the lhcdefense.org web site may be down due to technical or financial concerns.

JTankers, are you still not embarrassed by either your supporters or your supportees?

BTW, what’s going on with Wagner’s website? It seems to have disappeared right after the show was aired. Did Walter 50/50 shut it down in shame?

Cheers Ptrslv72

The odds of 1 in 50 million were calculated by Martin Rees for RHIC in 1994. At those odds there is a half a chance of destruction by the year 2100. Since no time frame was given then half a chance of destruction is 50/50.

The odds of half a chance in the correct time frame is half.

The LHC will be 25 to 30 times more powerful so presumably the 50/50 scenario will be arrived at a whole lot sooner.

But atleast in the latter scenario outlined, the present cloud of fear would be removed.

OHSAS 18001 standard defines “acceptable risk” as a risk that has been reduced to a level that can be tolerated by the company in regard to the company’s legal obligations and its own occupational health and safety (OH&S) policy….

And for mr. Plaga. Some high energy cosmic protons would come in along the magnetic field axis. along this the neutron star is not protected. Hereby creating a black hole. since many neutron stars are in binary systems, the black hole would be stopped in the other neutron star, and eat them both. Since we see many binary neutron star systems, this has not happened. the magnetic field of the neutron star would NOT shield it from the black hole , since in your argument the black hole would have to be neutral and hence not be subject to Synchrotron radiation.

Dr. Rossler believes that micro black holes would not be stopped by white dwarfs and neutron stars are protected by super fluidity, neutral micro black holes would pass through.

Dr. Plaga proposes other arguments to explain how such “proverbial canaries” may be protected from micro black holes, including the immense magnetic fields around Neutron stars.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/briefs/bp-016.html

In fact the American Congress dropped the USD 12 billions project.

http://physics.aps.org/articles/v1/14

In which the highly respected physicist demonstrate that the Giddings/Mangano report is seriously flawed?

Peskin do not believes that there are dangers, but simply states that there are factual mistakes in their study. Well, there could be even more.

I am not a creationist or a muslim, but in many scientists working at the LHC I found often expression offensive for believers and full of vulgar arrogance. Like Michio Kaku’s : “We are close to read the God’s mind”. Or “We have explored the last corners of the Universe and there is no trace of God”. Or the Hawking’s mantra that “We are close to unravel the last mysteries of the Universe.”

Even an atheist like Richard Feynam disliked such manifestation of human stupidity. To me the LHC remind Babel’s Tower…

http://lsag.web.cern.ch/lsag/LSAG-Report.pdf

What about the most simple analogy. Points of simultaneity. According to General Relativity the start and finish points are different for objects traveling at extreme velocity to each other. The classic example is enclosing a longer train in a shorter tunnel which takes a month of mathematics to learn.

Here is the deal. The protons take 40 to 45 minutes to accelerate to very near light speed and gain relative mass to over 200 time the weight of a proton. Fine so far but when you do that the time frame for the proton is different to our time frame.

Gibberish maybe but under the Laws of physics the protons being smashed together are not the same protons being injected into the particle accelerator. That make the CERN particle accelerator a time machine with the potential to damage reality in ways that can barely begun to be imagined.

If you think the scientists know what they are doing forget it. They have admitted publicly that they do not have a clue. Remember the famous Caesar’s last gasp? What happens if the wrong protons are in the air we breathe and simultaneously being subject to the most extreme forces ever introduced to matter since a trillionth of a second after the big bang because science fails to track or know where the “real” protons being used are and where they are going?